In the Beginning....
Hey! I stumbled on to your Ducati
site here on Yahoo. I'm mid-town Manhattan. This is a "true" Ducati group right?
You can tool
right? I was wondering when you'd be going out on a large meet or a circuit in
the near future. I'm from europe.
Thanks in advance,
Brian Danan 996-STS[no plate]
nick-named Vu.
Cool, I have people in Yonkers on
Broadway. Know your local. I went out after work this evening. As said, I'm
plate-less. I run a non- legal but w/European papers. She's yellow 2001. I've
been in the neighborhoods - work traffic only time. I run solo for obvious
reasons -plate-less-ness. Cool. I need to ride a circuit and had one back home
[low key]. Bike is itching. I can't run a group in city/road. Risk. Plate. I am
accustomed to heavy traffic, congestion and pollution. No cops in traffic. Born
on a Ducati. But do not need to make bad on a 'legal' cool group of guys because
[1] of us [me] is running no-plate. Cool. My papers [when stopped and
questioned] clear up the bike but US still gives no plates. It's even insured [EuroAssurance].
Cool, need a circuit to run on. Where? Distance from 5th Ave [51] to circuit,
give heavy traffic directions and area after that is very knee touching. Need
the work out [a safe one]. I will die. My bike too. Cool.
Vu
Salute Fred,
Cool. Half NYC =plates. I count [10] ten screw drivers in my kitchen here in
Manahattan. Vu=no. I am not Game-Boy. Appreciate your emotions. Run 'misuse
plate' worse than no plate at all. My plate -my home plate is French [department
75] but we do NOT run metal in France on Cafe style. We run tape/adhesive
backing markers. US Cops not cool. I do run safe not maniac. I need a course. My
job has me for one [1] year in US. I come from Morocco [origin].
Solo.
Not too interesting tooling with road group but equates as fun for
wind-face-sun. Cool. I train. Need
cicuit/speed/practise/line and tune. US dead on speed. We do not splat in
Europe. We have experience. Here=AUTOMOBILE clueless/cut-off/never look/dangeous.
Need circuit. Practise. I live on Ducati for 10 years. I do gym for my ride. I
am an I.P. international lawyer.
Help me with lines. 100-500 metres, open, gradual curved NO bridges, soft rubber
-heavy side/side [200-230+ kph]. Safe. Will ride 2hr to arrive at good local if
good course [not 2/hr@100kph- so map it]. Circuit/course competition/club event
competition. Rode w/two NYC since May. Dropped off. Can't hold lines. Ducati
people. Nervous. Looking way ahead not in their minds. Not tight. Now I'm solo.
In advance,
ibn Danan
as Vu
Cool. I have read your entire forum
this evening. I -read- fast. You have many good riders and allot happening in
June-July on
circuits. I have all that is needed to US standard for competition under
experienced amtr. 160K races- good for blood and small tanks.
Thank you Rob. I am a rain-warrior and
like my ride out and loose. Let me hope for rain at these events. I ride 140
days a year in very wet ...and dry is too linear for my gear.
Cool,
Vu
I do not understand this question.
Could you clarify this question or reply? I read through your threads. I feel
that the rider in question is a fair weather rider, [no rain intentions, no
commute obligations using the moto, club events, pleasure hipo cuising]. I have
used both sport and race version on both my Ducati motocycles, as well as Conti.
I can obtain a good price for the Michelin Race. Compound is excellent and ride
is very satisfying. Though a 'race' by brand name the 'Race' is not a race tire
but a good hipo compound with 5% higher usage than that of the Sport. Braking
will improve dramaticly with Race.
Vu/ibn Danan
There are two distinct different
schools of application in tire terminology when viewing 'Race and Race Sport by
Michelin and these again are not real racing tire compunds but rather racing
tire angular shaping. Michelin addresses these issues on 'compound' with their
higher performance version called RACE
1) RACE SOFT
2) RACE
The RACE model is the model I prefer not the RACE SOFT. I can get 7,000
kilometres of HARD riding out of them.
Your comment on "a Club Rider" within the "club" would not be willing to "push"
to a limit of a racer?
If you purchase a motor worth the price of a hipo car I think the question has
already been addressed. The RACE Michelin is not a slick, nor a [classic] soft
compounded [low wear] ALL-OUT tire for the track...it is simply a 45 degree
angled belt design adding a nicer side-to-side on a 996S or 700 series Ducati.
It can evac water and ride rough terrains and pavements. Excellent braking,
excellent.
A cheap brand-X tire on an average Joe-Hoe motor I would as well recommend
replacing a front along with a rear each time needing a rear [even if the front
was still 50%]. It is a general recommendation on safety for those who ride over
90kph over a full season. If your riders are the 90-110kph types, allowing 200
metres to slow, easy acceleration and wide easy cornering...please strike my
remarks on the needed replacement front tire. I have to remember that in europe
we have different speeds, conditions and needs. We also ride the RACE [non-soft]
in our groups 5 months of the year and 30% of the 5 months it is raining with
temps [15-20c 58-68F]. We also pay 250% more for tires in France then USA. Wear
is +5% between Sport version and Race [non soft] version.
Vu/ibn Danan
Cool, Appreciate your emotions.
Question, a Vu Question= have you rode on Race [non-soft] version? If you have
not I gave a complete summary in this thread on the RACE Michelin definition and
HOW NOT they are a real racing compound. [DOT]
These tires [Race] are of a 45 degree design in a "sport" performance compound.
To simplify: RACE [non-soft] warm extremely fast, brake extremely well and the
'roll-up' on lean in is VERY rewarding and controllable. Cool. RACE is just a
word Michelin uses to give definition to a SPORT tire with 45 degree ply angles
vs. 70-75 degree.
No- you will not burn-up the RACE [non-soft] prematurely if rode in same manor
as Sport and in many instances due to a cleaner 'centre-line' on [Race] you
could get better wear and 'control' and braking by USA habits and speeds.
I have had [6] six sets RACE and [2] two sets of Sport plus Conti and a few
other brands in two years on both my 916 and 996. I ride allot, a very
much-allot -all conditions and all temps. I ride rain like you cut your lawn
grasses - carefully.
How are your chains?
Cool,
Vu
1998 Article = Old News
Quote from Old Article: "Sport are laid at 75° for an "ideal balance between
cornering and stability." When the Silicium is combined with the Radial Delta
technology, the Sport tires are supposed to offer grip almost equal to that of
the Race tire until heat build-up causes the Sport tire's adhesion to fall off
more than that of the Race."
Totally useless Bill. Beat a dead horse and gets even harder to pick up. This is
OLD poop...OLD. 1999 on 1998 tires=Math 3.5 year old techology. I said Race [non
soft] not soft. The tires tested here were of one version at that time, Race
Soft.
Cool. I too can search 3 and four year old articles and pick out neat stuff of
CBX600 and cool.
I'll do myself a favor. I'll ride my Race [non-soft] lean as I do, brake like a
monster and read recent data on new equipment. Tires are the only contact with
you and the machine. We are huge on this technology in europe and always a major
discussion between forums there.
How are your chains?
Cool
Vu
How about shit for ?
I read since on this forum,
"My visor broke a bug hit my forehead."
"This guy on the 748S was the best....he strapped two cam-corders to his
bike...."
"...our guys don't run slick race...but I would say...."
"I speak for...."
I love you people. You're nice. You're technologically very informed, just can't
read latest info when approached on a day-to-fact question. You are nice touring
people. "How are your chains" is an expression we have in Europe. Cool. I
appreciate reading you and examining how humble and nice you are. You have good
Italian machines but you have money. You buy good machines but can't sometimes
buy good visors, tires and equipment and you meet often at coffee houses. Cool.
Enjoy the American culture. You're very nice people.
I ride alone, find a couple riders who invest in good head gear, ride in
leathers and good outter wear and can take technology a bit futher than
Starbucks and Route what-ever. I live on my bike, I've rode with many good rider
in Europe and I take my ride and my technology way beyond decaf.
Vu
How about shit for? Cool.
I read since on this forum
"I beat up every assailant ..."
"I dropped my bike without moving and scratched mirror..."
"The $300 clutch cover is fucking rad..."
"Where is the Ear again?"
I love you people. You're nice. You're technologically very informed, and can't
find bars after many directions. You like to spend money on screws and guns and
take movies to ride. Cool. Nice touring people with good Italian machines and
money to light it on fire and urinate.
I ride alone, find a couple riders who invest in good head gear and can ride to
scratch mirrors from lean angle. I do not use my bike as the water closet. Cool.
You ride straight and watch television to see what turns looks like.
I appreciate reading you and examining how humble and nice you are. How's your
chains is is an expression we have in Europe. More American is how is your BBQ?
I take my technology way beyond hamburger.
Enjoy the American culture. You're very nice people.
Vu
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